FLOTHE: Did you give him your phone number or did he write it down on something? There are 30+ professionals named "Cindy Paulson", who use LinkedIn to exchange information, ideas, and opportunities. FLOTHE: Uh huh. FLOTHE: He had an automatic garage door opener? FLOTHE: Was there anybody with him on Friday? Uh, FR: Would it have been during the time when your wife and children were out of. Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. If hed just murdered those women, they couldnt have turned him in, and he wouldnt have been in trouble not committing violent crimes was never an option. Humans could have wings, tentacles or an extra ARM 'in the next few decades' thanks to leaps in human DIY fruit and veg! Okay, she was standing there and I was driving down the street and she waved a little bit and so forth and I pulled up there and talked with her. CINDY: Uh huh Ducks and birds. FLOTHE: And did you pick an individual out that was FLOTHE: OK. And hes driving the same car. Hudgens: It was so helpful. We all have the same needs. FLOTHE: What do you mean by a cut in the back? All throughout the mid seventies and even into the eighties Robert carried on with his hobby of abducting and murdering women, and theres no telling how much longer he wouldve lasted had he not decided to attack a 17 year old girl by the name of Cindy Paulson in June of 83. But when Cindy reached out to the police, they believed Hansen's story, which was again backed up by his powerful friends. CINDY: Yes, its real Hell yeah, Im bothered by it. FLOTHE: How did you know this? What Cindy Paulson escaped is mind-numbing. Can you describe that again to me, Cindy? (pause) Being able to take those and meditate on them myself and make her memories my own memories put me in the right head space. That opens the door to me being accessible and fully embraced and thats powerful. CINDY: Theres no trees in the front yard. I think it will be a fun change of pace for me. There are so many different genres out there to do, so many different characters to play, so many different amazing actors and directors to work with. Your email address will not be published. Do you remember what hes driving on Friday? Jack Halcombe (Nicolas Cage), who convinces her to help him bring Hansen to justice. When Hansen drove up to Paulson and propositioned her, she agreed to get into his car. Im sorry that these photos needed to be included, but we really cant discuss this particular serial killer without speaking of hunting. However, she was never identified and Hansen died last month aged 75, while serving a 461-year sentence in Alaska. Now her body has been exhumed from from the cemetery at Anchorage Memorial Park with the hope that DNA testing and facial reconstruction will lead to her being identified. It is so nice when you dont have to build a character from the ground up by yourself. FLOTHE: If you can move your hand away from your face a little bit I want to make sure we get it on the tape recorder, OK? * I strive to be as concise as possible when it comes to facts as theres no telling what an article may be used for. When police were able to interview her, she explained her grizzly tale in detail. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. After he was convicted of committing murder, Darla finally let go of her marriage; she promptly divorced her husband, then she and the kids moved back to Arkansas to be with family. CINDY: Yeah. Being authentic creates the space for diversity of thought and means drawing on experiences that fall outside the box. And he contacts you. We recently landed an exclusive interview with Hudgens who talked about her reaction when she first read the script, how meeting the real Cindy Paulson helped inform her portrayal of the character, why it was important to her that audiences see Paulson as a real human being and not a stereotype, what she learned from working with experienced actors like Cage and Cusack who inspired her performance, how Walkers enthusiasm and energy kept the atmosphere on set upbeat despite the dark subject matter, and what she discovered about herself in the process of making the film. He was 75 years old. I think before you mentioned something being on the roof of the house. CINDY: OK. What was your reaction when you first read the script? As was Hansens wont, he wanted to feel things out. Flothe said. Buck teeth. Interesting stuff. FLOTHE: How about the glasses? And if Im not mistaken I think he had a green or a light t-shirt underneath it. Your email address will not be published. Like a Datsun Toyota cream-colored car. Ever since I was young, I wanted to be in a role where I could play a prostitute or a drug addict, because its nice to be able to portray someone who is so far from you, which I love. But aside from that, he just let me play and take it wherever I wanted. Hansens Weapon Cache (courtesy Alaska State Troopers; found in the attic of Hansens residence; note the handgun at center left), Your email address will not be published. You see, when we was driving I observed everything. FLOTHE: Would you draw me a diagram of the house and Ill turn the tape off just for a minute while youre doing that. A woman accused Hansen of rape in 1971, even as he awaited trial in a separate incident for following a stranger to her Spenard home and trying to kidnap her at gunpoint, according to Anchorage Daily News reports at the time. FLOTHE: The same person. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. But Cindy could feel California clients and BCs culture were becoming more open and it felt like the right time to be fully herself at work. Hudgens: I thought it was pretty spot on. Sure, no problem, Im like, fine, no problem. Hey, no problem, you know. I was going through those emotions and seeing the same things. "I can still see him when he got livid like that," he said. FLOTHE: Make sure you look through the whole book before you decide. "He's one of those kind of guys that you kind of hope every breath he takes in his life, there's some pain associated with it, because he caused such pain," Rothschild said. And it was just the usual chitchat, you know, asking, you know, got in the car and asked, how you doing and so forth and whether I was looking for a good time and so forth. I personally loved it. FLOTHE: In your face? Flothe (Sep 27, 1983) Cindy Paulson talks about Robert Hansen CINDY: (Inaudible) gave the gentleman my telephone number and asked him to call me. After we get in the garage we gotta go up these stairs. When will it be released? I said, fine, we can do it in the car. FLOTHE: You also described the outside of the house. Hansen was officially charged with the abduction and rape of Cindy Paulson and the murders of Joanna Messina, Sherry Morrow, Paula Goulding, and the unidentified body known as "Eklutna Annie." On February 28, 1984, Robert Hansen was sentenced to 461 years plus life in prison with no parole. CINDY: Number five. Hansen likely would have continued to kill and escape justice if one of his intended victims hadn't escaped. FLOTHE: OK. But it would be simple psychopaths are master manipulators and first class liars. CINDY: It was a really dark color. They searched his plane, home and car and found he had some items, including jewelry, that had belonged to the women. What did you learn about yourself in the process of making this film? I guess Im superstitious, so I dont like talking about things until they happen, but there are a few things in the works. She also discussed her fun cameo in Machete Kills and her upcoming films, Gimme Shelter and The Kitchen Sink. FLOTHE: Did he give you change? And, getting to that point, its so powerful, she says. It had a long barrel. Hansen asked to speak with his attorneys and went out into another room. Cause this motherfucker wasnt getting away with it. Glenn Flothe and his wife, Cheryl, after her successful kidney transplant in 2007 Cindy reveals that Hansen flashed some bills at her and that she was entranced by the thought of his money. CINDY: Yep. It was during this 30 month prison stint that he was diagnosed as bipolar with schizophrenic episodes, and wife number one filed for a divorce. CINDY: Uh huh. And then we hear about the same meet up from Cindy Paulsons perspective, documented in her trooper interview with Sgt. In this installment, Cindy talks about being handcuffed by Robert Hansen at gunpoint and identifies his handgun. Do you know your way around town well, or why did you happen to remember so well where it was at? Hansens Den (Alaska State Troopers) Lets touch on this serials background for a minute, because thats important when looking at a killer. Im just following my gut, and if its speaking to me, then Im doing it. FLOTHE: Were the handcuffs tight? "You could hear him screaming at his lawyers," Rothschild said. Here for the first time are the tape recordings that document that rendezvous. FLOTHE: How did he get in? FLOTHE: I hope not. CINDY: Regular Just working boots. Cause I still got marks from the handcuffs on my hands. Hansen was the subject of a 2013 film titled, 'The Frozen Ground,' which starred Nicolas Cage as an Alaskan State Trooper investigating the slayings, with actor John Cusack portraying Hansen. Healthy mother-of-two, 32, collapsed and died from brain bleed while she led fitness bounce class, Taking Vitamin D each day could cut your chances of getting dementia, study claims. Uh huh. FLOTHE: And when did you hear from him again? When his truck became stuck in the mud, the woman tried to run. And brown socks. Others have never been found. https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/cindy_interview_mofo.mp3, Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. There, he held her captive and proceeded to rape and torture her. FLOTHE: Ah. CINDY: (interrupting) It was an older car. So he shows up Sunday night, then. She gave me an extremely solid foundation and told me her earliest memories that she had until where she is to this day. (rustling sound as Flothe shows his gun to Cindy) Did it have that or was FLOTHE: Where did you go when you did it in the car? Or was it some other color? Just his whole work ethic I found fascinating, so I jumped at the opportunity to be able to do something with him. Wonderful tram tour guide Cindy is starting her fourth year as a trail tram tour driver for MCRF. Glenn Flothe. View the profiles of professionals named "Cindy Paulson" on LinkedIn. A MAJOR PHILANTHROPIST. And I was supposed to meet him but I didnt show up cause I overslept. Later the girl stated that she had immediately known that those seven other women had been murdered, and she was very determined not to become number eight! Robert Hansen confessed to killing 17 women in the 1970s and early 80s and after the murder 30 years ago, led authorities to her body near a lake in the north of Anchorage. You know, I was supposed to meet him. CINDY: Uh huh. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. And then up here on my hand, right in the middle. Kyle Hopkins is special projects editor of the Anchorage Daily News. Profiling is really an incredible science, its amazing how even the littlest details about a killer can be told by their crimes. Im a little confused about when the airplane seat got in and out of the car. FLOTHE: And then he contacted you on Saturday. He was really sweet. Cindy Paulson is Portrayed by Vanessa Hudgens In The Film 17 Year Old Cindy Paulson is handcuffed and screaming for help. Youve taken on some very interesting, challenging roles lately in different genres like this film and also Gimme Shelter. Can you tell us how that all came about? I was kinda trippin I really thought (inaudible) FLOTHE: Do you remember how he was dressed on Sunday? FLOTHE: The same car as on Friday? All Rights Reserved., https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/2017/09/08/robert-hansen-graves-along-knik/, Killers found not guilty by reason of insanity. They told Hansen they had seized his map marked with 17 locations, spots that they believed indicated the locations of bodies. Hansen confessed to authorities that he had killed 17. Only 12 bodies of the 17 women Hansen confessed to killing have been found. (inaudible) So, just the fact that I put myself in this situation, in this character, to go through these emotions and make myself feel all that I felt is an interesting thing psychology-wise. At the motel, police found 17-year-old Cindy Paulson, still handcuffed, huddled fearfully in a room. Hansens Truck & Datsun Close-up (copyright Leland E. Hale). FLOTHE: OK. Was it a blue color? He said cause he used to work on the slopes and that he would come down and spend money for a girl and go to her room for ten or fifteen minutes. FLOTHE: Where did he park the car? Im not correct on the times, OK? Being authentic creates the space for diversity of thought and means drawing on experiences that fall outside the box. One night she picked up a small, skinny client with a pock-marked face who wore glasses and spoke with a stutter. CINDY: The same person. FLOTHE: What kind of boots? CINDY: Um, he had me chained around my neck for a time. Some people dont care to dive into it, but its the reason that I do this. What was it like working with Nicolas Cage and John Cusack? This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. *EDIT * Cindy did not escape from the plane, she hopped out of his car. When he reached the Glenn Highway, he kept driving. When she made the move to California in 2001, she became more open, sharing that she was happily married to a woman who also happened to be a great cook and winemaker. CINDY: The Buick Century. CINDY PAWLCYN Award-winning chef, cookbook author and founder of a dozen restaurants, Cindy Pawlcyn reveals a few of her secrets to starting a successful bus. Mr Hoage said the woman was among cases of unidentified and missing people that were being reviewed by the center, with authorities receiving permission for the exhumation, the day before Hansen died. Laurel Andrews was a reporter for the Anchorage Daily News, Alaska Dispatch News and Alaska Dispatch. And he was very kind and giving as an actor, as well as John. We just want her to be identified.'. FLOTHE: How did you know that? CINDY: Uh huh. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. I just wanted to make her as full-hearted as I possibly could. Hansen said that victim is the woman known to police as Eklutna Annie, a roughly 20-year-old brunette whose body was discovered in 1980 by electric workers repairing a power line outside Eagle River. So in 1939 Robert was born in Estherville, Iowa to an immigrant father. CINDY: Uh huh. It was just shocking and disturbing. Only reason I know was cause I was layin there. CINDY: I knew I was in trouble. He was right to worry, state officials later said. Be sure and look at all six. She left the ADN in October 2018. We should all help each other out and give love to everyone as much as possible. When his wife, Darla Marie Henrichsen Hensen, and their children were home (they visited family in Arkansas quite often) its believed that Robert would simply skip taking his victim home altogether. FLOTHE: So he takes you to the house. CINDY: Yep. or debate this issue live on our message boards. So its early in the morning CINDY: I gave him the number at the Big Timber. 17-year-old Cindy Paulson ran away from Hansen in 1983 as he was trying to load her into his plane and "take her out to his cabin," presumably a euphemism for the vacant Alaskan wilderness where he gunned down his victims. CINDY: Um I think it was around six. He liked to take these women home with him, and once a victim had entered this killers lair she was pretty much doomed; he would take her down to the basement, often to a secret soundproof room where he already had chains rigged up. Is there anything else that you have coming up? No comments have so far been submitted. CINDY: The garage was opened. I think hes such an incredible filmmaker. This link contains non-graphic crime scene photos from Robert Hansen, it is mostly of the grave sites. I wanted her to be like a real human being because its easy to label someone whos stuck in that circumstance. Over by that house on Fourth, with the pickup truck camper. How fitting! FLOTHE: Friday morning. Kidnapped: The True Story of Cindy Paulson, Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. The serial killer wasnt even on the suspect list anymore, hed been completely cleared. CINDY: No. 37 Cindy Paulson Photos and Premium High Res Pictures - Getty Images CREATIVE Collections Project #ShowUs Creative Insights EDITORIAL VIDEO BBC Motion Gallery NBC News Archives MUSIC BLOG BROWSE PRICING ENTERPRISE VisualGPS INSIGHTS BOARDS CART SIGN IN Images Images Creative Editorial Video Creative Editorial FILTERS CREATIVE EDITORIAL VIDEO FLOTHE: When did he tell you this? CINDY: Like a convertible (inaudible), 1978 Buick Century 4-Door Sedan (This photo is NOT Hansens Buick, but it is similar). He offered me $200 for a blowjob in the car, cause I wouldnt go to his place. FLOTHE: Did you give him the room number too? Brown shoes. Today, my ideas as an individual come from confidence founded on who I really am, versus the persona. CINDY: It wasnt painted. Then he had got my other hand cuffed, I dont know how he did it, it was just frightening, cause I didnt really I fought, but not a lot, cause I knew he would do something. CINDY: Nope. If Im unsure of something, I promise to tell you, and yall the dates in this case about drove me nuts. Sadly in a roundabout way Robert brought upon his own two children the same thing which had traumatized him, his kids were bullied mercilessly for their fathers evil acts. It had never crossed her mind. Time is 8:15. He never learned her real name, he said. The Special Agent had known that this killer would be into collecting trophies from his victims, that he would have very little self worth, and that hed have a burning hatred for women you know, the usual type thing, but to pinpoint this killers stutter is truly astonishing! And he said well he was gonna start getting his moneys worth. Process Intensification with BC:Ntensify, Technology and Innovation Leadership Team, Brown and Caldwell looks to the future of 75 years and counting, Black History Month and Engineers Week: Why I became an engineer. FLOTHE: Did he call you first or did he just come by? After hed taken a nap, Cindys kidnapper informed her that they were going on a little trip on his plane, but that she shouldnt be alarmed as hed already taken seven other women out to this location. Hudgens: Its interesting that actors put themselves in a place where they can feel so hurt and feel so much pain. She Gets rescued By an patrol Officer. Darla had known that shed married a dedicated hunter, so when Robert had taken time away from the family, it was easy to explain away. When I read it, I saw it as a character development project, but seeing it overall pulled it all in together. CINDY: No. CINDY: Yeah, it had a really long barrel. CINDY: Yep. FLOTHE: Were you shown any pictures of him before? Hudgens: Oh my gosh, Nic is the most professional actor Ive ever worked with and that I probably will ever work with. Normally, people try avoiding that. CINDY: Yep. CINDY: I talked to him and made an appointment to meet him and I didnt show up. After being raped and tortured in the basement of Hansen's home, teen sex worker Cindy Paulson made a run for it at the airport while her captor was busy loading his plane. Your email address will not be published. There was this aha moment that there are a lot of people like me within the company. (laughs) Its my monster of sorts. CINDY: Uh huh. Investigators are certain that number 17 is small it is thought that Roberts body count is really in the thirties. My wife and family were down in Arkansas visiting her folks places and, um, I had met her the first time up town. And hes short. Can you talk about your fun cameo in Machete Kills and what that experience was like? CINDY: Yep. CINDY: He wrote it down on a (inaudible). In the early morning of June 13th 1983, (months before the other bodies were found) Cindy Paulson appeared on the side of the road. CINDY: It was a big revolver gun, like a police gun. And the reality of it is were all human. FLOTHE: OK. FLOTHE: Tapes turned back on. FLOTHE: There is a kind of lightish scar there on your FLOTHE: And contact Cindy at this phone number and this room number to start my podcast and YouTube channel. So it was nice to kind of test my own mental and physical strength. FLOTHE: So, youre in the car and he pulls a gun out and he handcuffs you. Women were tortured, beaten and assaulted before being blindfolded, with their hands bound behind their backs and told to run. (pause) There was also a collection of newspaper articles about the killer and his missing victims, and a map with little X marks all over it which indicated where hed dumped his victims. CINDY: The automatic opener. Required fields are marked *. FLOTHE: And about what time was that? For a man who had been a social outcast all of his life, it shouldve been an incredible feeling to finally be accepted; in his new town he opened his very own successful bakery with money obtained through an insurance scam, he and his new wife had a couple of kids, and Robert became a well respected member of society. Its important, too, for people to see that it only takes one person to have faith in you, to care about you, to make you feel changed. I saw him the next day, Sunday. Its very specific and unique, and its that type of film. 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