Mr. CORNWELL - Did you -- at the time you made the decision to discuss outside of the Agency this matter, did you focus on the secrecy oath problem? His information was that he had been unwittingly involved with paying Oswald through a high security clearance, since he worked in the finance office. Mr. WILCOTT - With any degree of certainty, other than just speculation, I would say, six or seven with some degree of certainty. If Shelleys claim to Glaze about his association with the CIA is true, it indicates that he was leading a double life as a schoolbook man as well as an intelligence operative. Mr. GOLDSMITH - How many months after the assassination was this? Mr. WILCOTT - I may have, sir, and I can't remember. Mr. PREYER - Thank you for being here today, and I will call the subcommittee to order at this time. The was that we did this was to contact as many people all at once and we figured this would be our best protection, that the more people that knew about it, the more protection it would, be for us. Wilcott swore in a secret session That is what we are attempting to accomplish, which is quite a big order. Also in this investigative report is information and connections on prime suspects : CIA Agent William King Harvey, CIA Agent George Joannides , CIA Agent David Altee Phillips and the confessions of CIA agent David Sanchez Morals and E Howard Hunt. The fact that he went and got his gun afterwards and then walked to the Texas Theater, perhaps to meet with someone, this suggests that he had some kind of agenda to fulfill. Mr. WILCOTT - Generally so, I would say, at that time. Also at this location were the office suites of eight schoolbook publishing companies, including Scott Foresman, Southwestern, Macmillan, and McGraw-Hill. Mr. WILCOTT - That is correct, sir. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Upon your memory and the list that your brought with you today, will you tell the Committee the names of the CIA Case Officers who you remember working XXXXXXXXXX in 1963? as members of the F.B.I., approached the two new employees at work & took them to an empty room inside the building. There was talk about it going on at the station, and several months following at the station. It was an infantry replacement center as well as a German POW camp. Near the two freight elevators were Shelley and co-worker Billy Lovelady. I am afraid we are going to have to leave to make this vote right now. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Why would anyone have shared this particular information with you? Mr. CORNWELL - Did they request that you leave? Shelleys second claim was that he joined the CIA. Thank you for your letter. Ruffians driving by yelled derogatory things and threw objects at the house such as half-empty beer cans. Mr. DODD - Did anyone else at the Agency know of your views at the Agency and did you communicate with other people about your dissatisfaction? I was really scared to go to the Government and talk about any of these things. The owner of the establishment, rightwing oil man, D. H. Byrd would have had little problem approving that kind of clearance. There is an interesting paradox about this issue. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And have you just described one of those instances to us? Mr. SAWYER - How long were you associated with that? Strange Deaths Of People Who Knew Too Much About The JFK Assassination: 92 Witnesses, Researchers, CIA Agents, Police Officers, Reporters, Girlfriends Who Just Knew Way Too Much! From June of 1960 to June of 1964, I was stationed at XXXXXXX Station, and my primary duty was finance and cash disbursements. Mr. CORNWELL - Is there any chance that that record stil exists? It seems to me that I recall jotting it on a little pad. [23], The man using the pay phone was Shelley, for in an affidavit made out that same afternoon, he said, "I went back into the building [from outside where he viewed the shooting of the president] and went inside and called my wife and told her what happened. Mr. WILCOTT - It was a book that I had. She enjoyed keeping up on the Kennedy family during their years in the White House. Please try again. Did he say to you, "I think Oswald was a CIA agent," or did that first person say to you that he was a CIA agent? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Were you ever able to check those particular files? And their security that there is in the Government didn't strike me as the kind of security that would keep me from getting attacked in some way, if someone wanted to do it. Mr. WILCOTT - That was November of 1977. Obviously, if Shelly had been arrested, someone with the police had that record expunged. Adams said, I believe the President has been shot. Neither Shelley nor Lovelady said anything in reply. There was a fourth calm man, perhaps unnoticed by MacNeil, who was getting a coke on the second floor. Mr. PREYER - It had no relation to your performance? According to this person, shortly after going to work for Bill Schelly, she & another new employee were subjected to some rather odd questioning when considering they were hired as clerks. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. He asked that a copy of the letter be sent to his homenot to the business addressand after he read it, he would check into it. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir, they did not. James and Elsie Wilcott: CIA Profile in Courage From: . In 1974, I met a person who says she was at that time working for Bill Schelly, who says he was Lee Harvey Oswalds superior at the time of the assassination. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. CORNWELL - Last November? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Excuse me, please proceed very slowly. Mr. CORNWELL - When this cryptonym was given to you by the officer, did any part of it ring any familiar note with you? The 1960 directory lists him as a department manager for the Texas School Book Depository, living in a house at 126 Tatum Avenue. Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for JFK Assassination : The James B. Wilcott Files And The CIA Oswald Project: An Investigative Report at Amazon.com. Give as a gift or purchase for a team or group. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Well, in other words, if you got the information three months after the assassination, Oswald had already been dead for three months, is that right? He was still there when Garner retired in 1986. Of all times to break down, my typewriter chose tonight to do it. What, on recollection, strikes me as possibly significant is that all three seemed to be exceedingly calm and relaxed, compared to the pandemonium which existed right outside their front door. Just as in the case of Carolyn Arnold and Roy Truly, the strange menace that Glaze encountered in early 1975 continued to follow him through the course of his life. (2009), James W. Douglass explains this in detail, including the James Wilcott story. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And how did that come to your attention: Mr. WILCOTT - It has been 15 years, and I can't remember specifically who said what, but certainly I am sure that Jerry Fox, for instance, had at least made some mention of it. Dr. King was killed by one rifle shot fired from in front of him. Ms. Berning. Mr. CORNWELL - It is your testimony, as I understand it, the first time that you spoke about the Oswald agency matter outside of the CIA was after you left the CIA; is that correct? or C.I.A. James Wilcott worked out of the Tokyo CIA station at the time of the assassination. She confided this information to Mrs. Bergin and told her that she had a copy of the First Ladys dress, pink in color with the black velvet collar. It was more of a casual kind of thing, to my way of thinking. Mr. CORNWELL - That is, that subject matter, your statement on the Oswald agency matter, be printed or otherwise publicized in a news publication, radio or TV or anything like that on any other occasion? "[24] Lovelady must have been one of the other calm men, since, as previously noted, he made no response when Adams said that the president had been shot. First of all I apologize for having to run in and out during your testimony and some of this you may have already covered; and, if you have, then I will not proceed with it. Wilcotts affidavit and deposition were declassified by the ARRB. JAMES WILCOTT'S TESTIMONYJames B. Wilcott, a former CIA accountant, swore in a secret session of the House Select Committee on Assassinations that he was told by other CIA employees that Lee Harvey Oswald was paid by the CIA, and that money he himself had disbursed was for "Oswald or the Oswald project." Mr. GOLDSMITH - So, you first came across this, information in November of 1963, is that correct? Let us say, for instance, that there was a certain project going on, and the project was one that became known that this project was being carried out -- and we call it "flaps," -- and the Case Officer in charge might get word that somebody from headquarters was coming to review the files to investigate the flap. Upon request, the National Archives sent me a copy of the letter. Mr. Shelly claims to have been an intelligence officer during World War II and thereafter joined the CIA. Mr. WILCOTT - That is right. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, I never really looked. Mr. CORNWELL - Did they tell you whether or not you passed the polygraphs? Mae Brussell showed copies of this document to the editors of Globe. Behind the building are five loading docks and an asphalt lot extensive enough to accommodate a number of trucks of any given size. "I was standing on the triple underpass at the time and was wounded by a fragment that bounced off the pavement," Tague, now 77, told ABC News. Mr. PREYER - And Miami, was that comparable in size? Dean was the son of Elzie L. Glaze and Geneva I. Glaze and was born in Lubbock, Texas. I am sorry. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. time and date of assassination and correspondence with time and date of Wilcott's hearing of assassination. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you discuss this information with One of the aforementioned employees (whose name I cannot recall) stated that when she went to work for Bill Shelly at the school book depository in the early 1970s she was interviewed for the job by some type of government agents who asked if she had been recruited by the F.B.I. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir; it was a cryptonym that I was familiar with, that it must have been at least two or three occasions that I had remembered it and it did ring a bell, yes. I next called John Peets, the manager of the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you remember which of these individuals if any, made the specific allegation or reference that Oswald was an agent? Mr. DODD - In. It was dated December 12, 1977,[11] and, at the bottom, it had the authors full name. And we thought every year it was going to be coming out, and especially I didn't think that -- since what I had heard was all hearsay that I would never have seen Oswald or anything like that -- this is not the kind of thing that would be used for even something like the Warren Commission, and they would have to have something more substantial than that to go on, aside from the fact that I never would have done it in the CIA, being a very risky thing to do with the CIA. Mr. WILCOTT - They were extremely vulgar and I don't think that I should give the full context of them. Their apartment looked as if no one had ever lived in it. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Why not? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. 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