MIB promised both Jin and Sun that he could reunite them and they could be with Ji Yeon. Jacob then finds the Man in Black's physical body and places it with the woman's in the cave where she had been living with Jacob, along with a pouch containing the black and white stones they used in the box game. They could kill and hunt and torture and rape without any consequences. The finale of the series "Lost" resolved many of the mysteries of the island and its history. Jack waking up in the same place as MIB after he went into the light gives credence to the theory that he becomes Smokey, although I dont know if I necessarily believe this yet. 2007). 3. Bodies missing or not present on the island include Christian, Ben's mother, and Yemi (now). The Man In Black from Lost is an immortal guy who has only ever existed on the Island. RELATED: Westworld: 10 Darkest Moments So Far, Ranked. It started out as a very cool island-survival show with a creepy, subtle layer of fantasy and suspense related to something supernatural that we didn’t quite understand. Man in Black ("The Smoke Monster", "The Monster" gibi isimler ile de bilinir), ABC'de yayınlanan televizyon dizisi Lost'ta yer alan kurgusal bir karakterdir. The special effects the show had access to didn’t really do his first appearances much … We can be relatively sure the appearance of Christian in the cabin was MIB given that Claire was there with Christian and we know Claire allied with MIB. A police appeal said: "Police are concerned for Lewis Palk, who is a 31-year-old male missing from Tiverton since 07/10/19. Good and evil exist beyond Jacob and the Man in Black; they merely act as judges. Ben tells Hurley that he can run things differently than Jacob did. Christian Shephard tells Jack that they time that they spent on the Island was the most important thing that they all have done. A young man searches for home in the changing city that seems to have left him behind. MIB offers Sayid the chance to reunite him with Nadia. The Island is his "game" and his rules. Since there is no time in the "place" where Christian is at, it would make sense that he (and other such ghosts) could appear anywhere on the timeline. So my interpretation would be this: the light doesn't turn everybody into a smoke monster, it distills the very essence of a human being and manifests it, that's why it doesn't seem to harm Jack - he let go when he stood in the light, there was nothing evil in him anymore. The Man in Black, in his real form, frees Richard. It is quite likely that MiB was Smokey's first transformation and became convinced that he/it really was MiB. It was trying to pull Locke down the cave to hell, because of how jealous it was of him that he was healed by the island. Well, nobody seems to know, but there are multiple accounts from some very credible people, a few photos, and a few scenes of what appear to be real genuine encounters. He chooses the container of sand, THE COMPASS, and then as the comment above me states, he chooses the knife instead of "The Book of Laws". Sık sık siyah bir duman bulutu olarak görülürken 5. sezonun finalinde siyahlar içinde orta yaşta bir adam olarak göründü. So, the Man in Black going elsewhere would just be a regular guy in society. FSW was a manifestation of what the characters wanted, not something that was actually taking place. https://lostpedia.fandom.com/wiki/The_Man_in_Black/Theories?oldid=1117017. Maeve Millay (Physical Body) 6. Of the 1.5 million missing black men from 25 to 54 — which demographers call the prime-age years — higher imprisonment rates account for almost 600,000. It is the way MiB does his job. MIB can scan the memories of the observer and choose an appearance based on that. Maeve's daughter (Physical Body) 7. WARNING: The following contains spoilers for Marvel's Spider-Man: The Black Cat Strikes #4, by Dennis Hallum, Luca Maresca, Rachelle Rosenberg, Travis Danham and Sana Takeda, available now. So he was putting rules about the source, altough not intentionally. Initially I rejected the idea the MiB as Jacob's brother was dead in. His reaction, then, may indicate that he and Jacob are brothers. Şovun fiilî antagonistidir. This irritated tone could also be due to frustration. Smokey is gone. Before he was lost to the Light, the Man In Black was bitter and psychologically lost, but he wasn't sadistic or violent. Maybe The Island is magical, but it doesn't have global consequences. Titus Welliver, who played the Man in Black, apparently respected that, because he worked hard to avoid leaking any twists in advance. The MiB has no faith and acts only in his own self-interest, and there is nothing to indicate that he could make do on a promise and his word is clearly not binding. It's hypothesized that the enemy is constrained to the Island whereas Jacob is depicted as meeting with several off the island. From that moment on, the Man In Black was not his brother - it was merely a corpse, a vessel, to allow the Monster to exist in human form. The white woman who called police on a black man in Central Park during an encounter involving her unleashed dog has been fired from her job, her employer said Tuesday. This list shows the victims Man in Black has killed: 1. John tells him that Richard will eventually pass it back to him in the future during an encounter when John's leg is wounded (i.e. The special effects the show had access to didn’t really do his first appearances much justice, but it’s still a very unique concept. Jacob was only able to bring people to the island because the island allowed him to. Isabella's ghost tells Hurley to tell Richard that if the Man in Black leaves the island, they all go to hell. Using that logic, it's technically the river/water killing Jacob, not Smokey. Reverend Orson Parker) in the NBC series Life, and appeared in the season five finale of Lost as the "Man in Black", which he continued to portray during the sixth and final season. Richard passes the compass (MiB's) on to John Locke. The time travel element of Lost is probably the thing that lost it most of its critical favor and a large amount of its viewership. There were three important deaths in the May 11 episode: The Man in Black, the Man in Black's mother, and the show's momentum. The violence of Westworld seems to have been overshadowed by its incredible complexity. Yemi's post-death appearance was the Man in Black trying to find his loophole to kill Jacob but because Eko was unwilling to change he wouldn't have been accepted by The Others as a leader, so the smoke monster killed him. Sayid is gone. For theories about the Monster, see this page. So John Locke had a part in destroying the MIB. This is a power that Westworld’s version of the character certainly doesn’t have, as we’ve seen him feel pain a fair few times. "Lost" is seen through the filter of your own life experiences, but, at the same time, fans can have a collective view.The following is one view of what happened in the "Lost" finale. These visions are not mimics. He spared both Ben and Richard when they were being judged because he saw them as people he could deceive into murdering Jacob. The MIB can read peoples memories, this is shown several times. MIB had begrudgingly fulfiled this role until he was able to put his plan in place with the Locke loophole. Westworld’s version of the character has killed hundreds of hosts, as well as six (as far as we know) humans. Directed by Barry Sonnenfeld. He didn’t exactly act like a Roman, but it was still interesting to explore such a distant time period in such an otherwise-modern show. Smokey is not gone. The monster already existed before Jacob and his brother ever went to the island. Jacob is not allowed to kill his brother. Locke encounters Christian in the FDW chamber at the bottom of the well during a time period which must be sometime prior to 1867 due to the presence of the Tawaret statue. When he said, "you have no idea how much I want to kill you", he wasn't speaking as his sibling, but as a resentful Monster who thought it was finally free and found itself once again bound in chains by the Protector, able to roam the Island freely but never able to leave. When a dead character's body is missing or not present on the island, it is in service to the Island, not the Man in Black or Jacob. The characters wanted to be happy independent of the Island, so it didn't "exist" in their "limbo." At least 89 unnamed Confederados (Physical Body) 4. The boys initially led a carefree life, but some thirteen years later discovered the shipwreck's other survivors on the island. The man in black is considered evil and Jacob is considered good. In the dramatic reveal, we also get the first hint that The Man In Black knew William and that they are one and the same. He was born on the Island with his brother, the Man in Black, and lived there, eventually in the statue of Taweret, until his brother convinced Ben to kill him. In conclusion, with this now written by a different user, the Man In Black was not the Smoke Monster. The Man in Black then tracks down a drunken Sawyer (Josh Holloway), who recently lost Juliet. Alex was buried by Richard, but even though MIB could take her form. Speculation without supporting evidence can be deleted. John Locke soon travels back to 1954 and gives Richard the compass. I did my best." He managed to confront both Mr. Eko and Ben Linus through a dream-like state, which, you can’t deny, is a very cool power to have. This page was last edited on 6 August 2020, at 13:41. While The Man In Black had a very concerning addiction to violence, he was the one to take things further. Both Fake Man in Black and Fake Locke were not identical to the real persons, just copies made out of corporeal manifestations of electromagnetic energy. This could have something to do with the 'sickness'. Directed by Robert Alan Aurthur. Mother is the "older" smoke monster. In 2004, at Colleen Pickett's Funeral, her body is burned by the others and sent out to sea, because the others didn't want the monster to take her form. Perhaps its that MIB has no problem with killing people who he knows he cannot manipulate. Hence, the story's logic should be taken in context of the narrative; perhaps it doesn't matter if the MiB escapes in the wide scope of things, but if he does, evil would have triumphed in that story, so the resolution is negative, regardless of what happens to the rest of the world. With Jacob (the Protector) dead it became necessary to expose the island's raw electromagnetic ("soul" power) in order to decommission the island, and by extension its security and judgment system. However, the ending of season two may have provided us with an incredible twist about the character. Given all the time Lost has spent lately on Jacob (Mark Pellegrino) and the Man in Black, you might think they're the key to the show or something. Smoke Monster #1 - The Man in Black's essence. Who are the mysterious Men In Black (MIB)? But the story will mean different things to different people. The Smoke Monster was originally a tool security system and biographical viewing device used by the island's Protector ("Mother", and probably others before her) to judge the island's visitors and protect the island itself. Unlike Jacob, MiB is stuck on the Island and has no means to "touch" and influence people off the island. He did the same with his own previous form, Alex Rousseau and, most notably, John Locke throughout the entirety of season six. Likewise, manipulating Ben to kill Jacob is indirect and doesn't break the rule. What an extraordinary novel: part family drama, part indelible ode to the Outback ― a … Everyone else around him was entering the park in order to live out creepy fantasies that they can’t take advantage of in the real world. But it was given, nonetheless. Game content and materials are trademarks and … MIB being both trapped on the Island and its guardian are not mutually exclusive attributes. "He is slim, 6ft, black trousers and possibly a black hooded top. This article or section has been nominated for a, He Turned Into the Smoke Monster because of the Rules, He turned into The Monster because Jacob thought so, Method of Control/Persuasion/Manipulation of others. Black lives matter, and that should include the lives tragically lost in the riots following the horrific police killing of George Floyd. Therefore Kate finished it. This appearance is presumably the Man in Black, given that he speaks to Locke about the conversation they had in the cabin regarding the moving of the island. This means that the island's protector can make up rules. We don't know how long he's been searching for a loophole, nor how many times he's failed, but if it were many, he would be quite frustrated with it all by now. This resulted in him believing in "the rules" and having a desire to "Go Home". Again, notice that he physically touches everyone he meets (with the exception of Ilana who he had apparently met before - notice he also wears gloves and is dressed in black in that scene, including Locke. Stated as questions or possibilities (avoid question marks, "Maybe", "I think", etc). This was first hinted at by The Man In Black’s ability to enter dreams and influence people. It could be the case that Smokey is simply the perversion of the person who falls into the. RELATED: 5 Reasons Westworld Season 2 Is Better Than Season 1 (& 5 Reasons It Isn't). It would be like someone inviting you to their home where a bunch of the other guests try to kill you, but you don't leave because you think one of them will burn the house down, and if the house is burned down the entire world will be set ablaze. However, for a good few thousands of years, he was unable to die. MIB is able to "trap" his followers by offering them the thing they want most, and is able to manipulate them by hanging it in front of them (like a carrot on a stick). He can use these memories to assume their likeness to various degrees. The only known artifact of this journey is the journal of the ship's First Mate , which was discovered seven years later among the artifacts of pirates on Île Sainte-Marie , Madagascar . In many cases, the Men in Black have also seen aliens—in some accounts, they are aliens themselves or some form of “demonic supernaturals.” Check out the hottest fashion, photos, movies and TV shows! On the second encounter, MiB killed Eko. The result was the MiB being left mortal as he was before he appropriated the monster. It's safe to assume in the alternate reality the Island either didn't exist or didn't exist to the characters which is the same thing. The monster can take the form of dead bodies if they are not buried, Yemi, Christian, Locke. They were two completely different characters, with the Monster being entirely independent of the Man In Black, who died two thousand years ago, and having its own distinct personality, traits, and motivations. Its misbeliefs led to its own death. Locke spoke to him in the cabin, and so perhaps part of MIB's power or spirit went into Locke and travelled back in time with him. Season one of Westworld was incredibly confusing, but nothing in comparison to season two. Ben explains that he needs to be "judged" by the smoke monster (as Alex) and, unlike Eko's experience with the smoke monster (as Yemi), Ben. A major theme in Lost has been the feeling of worthlessness and rejection. Moreover, we've seen MIB be surprised, such as by the appearance of Desmond on the island. Jacob had limited information concerning the Smoke Monster, so he ended up believing that it was in fact his brother's spirit when this was not the case. Bar… MIB offers Claire the chance to reunite with Aaron again (yet his claim that Aaron is held by the Others is a lie, both as Claire's "friend" and as the apparition of Christian Shephard). Similarly, tangible apparitions such as Kate's horse and Hugo's imaginary friend Dave are a product of the Island. Man in Black (Lost) A fictional character and the main antagonist on the American TV series lost, ABC is most often called the man in Black. When their adopted mother heard, she blindfolded the boys and led them to a cave where a stream flowed in… Remember that Jacob's only idea about The Source was "whoever enters there becomes worse than death", so it was his intention while he was throwing MIB into the source; to make him something worse than death. We’ve compared the best aspects of each character in an attempt to determine which series wins. The said story also happens to be very symbolical; 'push the button, or the world will end' - not the the whole world, just the world these people know, or the Island's world. Walt is also not present on the island. However since the afterlife is taking place in a metaphysical environment the MIB was only right about everyone, including the island, passing on to the afterlife at some point in time. There's a notable shift in acting styles - the Man In Black when he was human, when he was Jacob's brother It was underwater. (In contrast, Admiral Kirk's reading glasses in the second and fourth Star Trek movie constitute such a time paradox: as from the moment in the future he receives the glasses there will be additional wear and tear which will travel back in time together with the glasses but can't be there once they arrive back in the future because they haven't occurred yet). What … Directed by Francis Searle. Would provide possible hints to the person and character of the Man in Black. What disappoints Richard if the fact that John chose the knife instead of "The Book of Laws". From 1954 to 2007 the compass passes forward in normal time with Richard until MiB recollects it (switch) in 2007. With Tommy Lee Jones, Will Smith, Linda Fiorentino, Vincent D'Onofrio. The Man in Black is not evil, he simply wants to leave the Island. The smoke monster is some kind of symbiont that lived before mother, that lived on after mother had died. This is a difficult one to pinpoint because, given the complexity and Westworld and the very nature of the existence of the hosts, the concept of aging and the timeline itself are very much impossible to judge at times. Bash Jacob's head in until he's unconscious and then throw him into a river face down. Jacob and the Man in Black hate each other, but agree to respect each other while the devil is still alive. The Lost Man is Jane Harper’s third consecutive marvel… and, against long odds, her most marvelous yet, pitting brother against brother, man against nature, reader against the clock. A police officer joins a secret organization that polices and monitors extraterrestrial interactions on Earth. From Lostpedia Theory Policy: "A theory is an attempt to explain a certain mystery using logic backed up with logically consistent observations and facts. And with the Island sunk, nothing would change anywhere. Using the confusion of the 2007 time shift appearance of the injured John Locke at the Beechcraft site, the (fake) Locke (aka MiB) switches his ('new') compass with the ('old') one Richard Alpert has been carrying for years. The show is so hard to understand at times that during a more simple fight scene, you’re left thinking about what was just said instead of focusing on the battle at hand. Anyway, Jack needed to restore the light in the heart of the island in order to "let go." These mysterious people have also been referenced by politicians, like Vladimir Putin along with Prime Minister Dmitri […] Either that, or there is another entity in the Island that takes the form of the dead (like with young Ben). When Ben's mother appeared to him as a kid, Ben's mom had never been to the island, so the image of his mom was taken from Ben's memories of pictures Ben had seen of his mom and of Ben's conceptions of his mom. Sheriff Reed (Physical Body) 11. If his mother had told him "whoever goes into the source becomes (put something else here)" Jacob would have been thinking about it and MIB would be that (something else). "Xerox") all the memories he had, the same way as he could "become" FLocke. The go-to source for comic book and superhero movie fans. They both have a character with the exact same name. First the man in black, I don't recall hearing his name, and Jacob are actually brothers. The Man in Black Is a Mysterious Figure in both Westworld and Lost In both Westworld and Lost, The Man in Black is referred to in discussion boards as … The Man in Black says to Richard "the Devil took my body". This is when it gets interesting, because the smoke monster sound is heard, but the Man in Black is in the form of Isabella. A one-stop shop for all things video games. Almost 1 in 12 black men … In. In the episode "Dead Is Dead", the murals underneath the Barracks show the smoke monster as an entity that judges people, and indeed what Ben says in that episode indicates that the monster decides if a person has turned from good to evil, and in the latter case he is allowed to kill them. The apparition is not the smoke monster itself, though the smoke monster can project your memories. It may not have affected anything else in the world, since Jack killed the smoke monster in Locke's body. 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